Response to Balstrome – Why do you believe in God (Part 1)

An atheist, Balstrome, wrote an article called “Why do you believe in God (Part 1)” and asked me to respond to it. Here’s the link to the article: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?236417-Why-do-you-believe-in-God-page-1

Here’s my response:

Pierre Charron

I don’t think we are all born Christian as Pierre Charron says, infact the bible tells the opposite. It says: “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). So no person, except Jesus (and He was half-human) was ever born a Christian or was righteous in any way at birth. I have two-year old twin sons, and they remind me every time just how sinful we are even from birth. Nobody taught them to be sinful, but they just are and they perfect it each and every passing day. Even at 2 years old, they have already done things that you would naturally expect from a selfish adult. They fights each other over toys even though they each have similar toys, covets everything each other have, and even beat each other up at times (which happens every day). I raise them up to be Christian, but they are not Christians, and at this stage of their lives I don’t expect them to be. They are as sinful as an adult is; it’s just that they are incapable of committing the sins adults can commit. Had God not been merciful to children, then they would be deserving of hell even after 2 years of life. They are not going to be Christian because I’m a Christian, but they would have an increased opportunity to learn the ways of God unlike other children raised by atheists, and this will play a big role in their conversion. If children became Christian because of their parents who are Christians, then there wouldn’t even be a single so called ex-Christian atheists. So Pierre Charron is wrong in all his assessments.

Creation

The bible says creation declares God’s invisible qualities (Romans 1:18), but it also says that “before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God” (Psalm 90:2). So yes, God’s omnipotence is seen through creation, but it’s not limited to creation. He was still all-powerful even before creation came into being, and He was still God for trillions of years before we came into existence. To prove this point, God boasts in His omnipotence by saying “behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth” (Isaiah 65:17). So creation (including billions of stars and galaxies) doesn’t limit God’s power, but it’s meant to convince and make us tremble at the sight of the God who created it all.

The problem with us and our infinite minds is that we see everything being created, and we see children being created in their mother’s wombs, and this makes us think God should be part of creation as well and He should have a creator. But isn’t all this creation a result of God? Doesn’t it make sense to us that there wasn’t creation before God created, so God is the Creator not the created. The bible teaches us that God exists beyond creation; hence all this creation we see before our eyes will pass away. If He’s part of creation, then it would be impossible for Him to create a new universe, but He insists it would be done.

Reference: https://burden4souls.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/did-god-come-from-nothing-response-to-katoblephas/).

 Phenomenons like lightning

God once asked Job this question: “What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed, or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?” (Job 38:24). Job didn’t have an answer, and I don’t think our scientists answer this question even though they give a scientific explanation of what causes lightning. Do we know the real causes of earthquakes or lightning, except for scientific explanations of the process? I don’t think we do! Are some of them caused by God’s wrath against the world? I think so, even though I don’t know which ones are as a result of God’s wrath or not. What I know is that during the Great Tribulation there would be the biggest earthquakes the world has ever seen when the sixth seal is opened, and this earthquake will be solely caused by God’s wrath upon the earth (see Revelation 6:12-14).

Who should we kill?

The bible doesn’t say we should kill anybody, but the passages of the bible say we should kill every sinner. This is a problem because we are all sinners, so if the bible said we should kill every sinner then the whole world will die over sin.

Let me explain to you the difference between the Law (New Testament) and Grace (New Testament), otherwise you’ll continue thinking the bible commands people to be killed. The bible says “the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” (Galatians 3:24 KJV). Meaning the Law (Old Testament) wasn’t meant to be used to kill people over their sins, but to make them aware of their sins so they can be justified through faith (grace which is what’s being presented in the New Testament). The bible clarifies this matter by saying “I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, Do not covet” (Romans 7:7). You see, all those people were not meant to be killed, but by reading the Law then they would get a picture of how sinful their actions are against God, and this will lead to their salvation through grace. If there wasn’t the Law, then we would have lived a life of immorality without being aware that we are sinning against God, but thanks to the Law we now sin with full knowledge. Now the bible says this same Law is administered in our hearts through conscience (Romans 2:15).

Reference: https://burden4souls.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/what%e2%80%99s-the-purpose-of-the-old-testament-%e2%80%93-part-1/

Should women preach to men?

I don’t know! This is one area of the bible that always confuses me, because both sides of the coin are biblical yet only one can be correct. I refuse to answer this question because it might be a stumbling block to other Christians.

Slavery

What we call slavery and what the bible calls slavery are two different activities. Our slavery meant going to West Africa and taking men and women under wrong pretenses, and then hold them up as prisoner under hard labour. The bible’s definition of ‘slavery’ always indicated a time period which a person has to work for his master, and there was a redemption price, and it was absolutely optional on the side of the slave. Check this from the scripture you mentioned:

Time period

If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. (Exodus 21:2). Slaves from West Africa were held prisoners in Europe and America and not allowed to leave, and most of them (if not all) died without ever going back. So this is totally different.

Redemption

“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. (Exodus 21:7,8). Could slaves from West Africa buy their freedom if they were not happy with their masters? No, which means this is totally different.

Optional

“But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ then his master must take him before the judges.  He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life (Exodus 21:5,6). West African were forced to be servants for life. Again, this is totally different.

As I have showed, the bible never condoned slavery hence the word used is ‘servant’ and not ‘slavery’ in contemporary bible translations.

Marriage

Everybody I know (Christian, Atheist, Hindu, Muslim, etc) who is married got married because of their sexual urges. Infact I don’t know of any person who got married because he/she didn’t have sexual urges towards their spouse. Are they having sex? If yes, then it answers our question, unless you are a feminist and you are divorcing sex from marriage. As far as I’m concerned, I lusted after my wife and I married her, and it’s biblical. The bible says sex is very important, that’s why it needs to be done within the confines of marriage. So if you want to have sex, then you better find another person of different sex who also wants to have sex and marry her for life so you can have all the sex you want. Thank God for sex within marriage.

Justice

The bible says Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross so God can demonstrate his justice at the present time because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished (see Romans 3:25, 26). This scripture explains clearly that God is so willing to punish people for their sins that He punished His own Son on the cross for the sins of men. It clearly stipulates that there are sins that went unpunished previously, but Jesus was punished for them all. How many cheating women should have been punished for their sins and were not? How many cheating men should have been punished for their sexual escapades but were not? Is God unjust because He hasn’t punished them like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah? No, He’s merciful to them because Jesus has already been punished for their sins.

But God’s mercy should not be mistaken as a substitute for His justice. He has promised to kill both cheating husbands and wives in hell for eternity.

Christ, what a role model

Jesus said “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved” (Mark 13:12-13). Statistics tells us that 171000 Christians are killed every year in the world. Over 2000 years since Jesus said that, this world has killed more than 100 million Christians. So was Jesus unjust when He said we should ‘hate’ our brothers, sisters and parents when they are the ones who killed (or sold to be killed) millions of Christian siblings? Do you know that a Christian in Muslim countries is being deserted by his family and as soon as he tells them that he has converted to Christianity? Do you know how many Christians are jailed and killed in muslim and hindu countries because their family turned on them? Take Rifqa Bary for instance, was Jesus supposed to lie to her?

Born of a virgin

I can’t believe that in the days of stem cells manipulations and synthetic life that people are still questioning the possibility of a virgin birth. It’s really unbelievable, but then many people are still ignorant of the great developments that have been done in the stem cells world. I don’t want to say a lot on this issue, because I might shock you.

 

25th December

Was Jesus born on the 25th December? No, so Mithra doesn’t share a birthday with Jesus, if she/he ever existed.

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